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Date: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: follow up meeting on OCCAP at Secretariat and my concern.
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From: FOCUS ORISSA moderator <focusorissa@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: follow up meeting on OCCAP at Secretariat and my concern.
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Dear All,
Thanks Himanshu for bringing the issue before us and rejoinders of Achyutbhai and Bimal.The design of the government is crystal clear-in one hand they want civil society response vis-a-vis people of the state as a whole and in other hand they want to downplay the RESPONSES, just to suit their whim.
They have called the meeting in a haste only to get the approval of Principal Secretary Forest & Environment and for a symbolic gesture as to say/show,Civil Society is involved.
Mr. Aurobind Behera was present when I submitted the Civil Society Response on OCCAP to the then Chief Secretary Mr.Tarunakanti Mishra on June 24th at 4.40pm.
I don't think the sinceer and committed efforts put up jointly by all those who were part of drafting the Civil Society Response will go waste and so also the joint initiative of FOCUS ORISSA FORUM ON CLIMATE CHANGE,ORISSA ENVIRONMENT SOCIETY and FOOD RIGHTS COLLECTIVE.Few of our friends were sharing earlier, in fact few departrments have accommodated some of our suggestions in the final plan.I don't know how far it is true.
At this point of time I think a delegation should meet and apprise the Principal Secretary and at the same time we should send a memorandum to the Chief Minister and Union Govt.after all the Central Govt is there to approve and grant the Planned Project.
What, I should suggest is to convene a meeting of the working group at the earliest to further the issue and follow up.
Hope, you all would like to appreciate my feelings.
Regards,
Sudarshan Chhotray
Convenor
Focus Orissa Forum on Climate Change.
http://www.sudarshanchhotray.
http://www.sudarshanchhotray.
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:11 PM, ACHYUT DAS <achyutdas@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Himansu and thanks Bimal.
We have to raise the issue with the Principal Secretary of Department of Forest and Environment Mr. Aurobindo Behera so that there is a proper consultation with the CSOs/NGOs after the Government finalises the draft. . There are very important inputs from the Civil Society and these should not be thrown to waste paper baskets. As we all know, there are many contentious issues which need lengthy debate. We should have a time line for these consultations.
I suggest let there be two kinds of consultations - one organised by the Government in which the CSOs/NGOs participate in large numbers and another organised by the CSOs in which the key Government officials participate. Each consultation has its own dynamics.
Let us have some discussion on these suggestions.
With best wishes,
Achyut
On 8 November 2010 11:54, bimal pandia <bimalpandia@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear elders and friends,
Pranam !
We must thank Himanshu for sharing this information and at the same time be concerned the way a section of the administration is pushing forward a dreadfully ill-planned climate change action plan.
Himanshu's first hand sharing of experience exposes the honesty of the administration to truthfully accommodate civil society and expert opinions. A hurriedly called meeting, an absence of any information on what addition/modification have been made to the draft document, and of course a highly skewed composition of the participants make that event a highly suspicious one.
The government should have tried a little more in getting a bigger representation from the civil societies and should have also invited those who did arrange public consultations and submitted reaction/suggestions to the draft document. The government could have at least invited those who did attend consultations leading to preparation of the first draft document.
Hopefully, we have probably not lost too much time or scope. The government can still amend the impropriety it committed by choosing to proceed in a subterfuge manner. We should thank the government that it has already taken some time, after seeking comments/suggestions from public. Now it should not do anything which makes the wait, and the process leading to that wait, a meaningless affair.
With regards
Bimal Prasad Pandia
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Himansu Patra <himansupat@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all
I think it would be wiser to let you brief about the proceedings of this meeting and the way some govt officers ( those who were the convener for OCCAP ) are trying to mislead sri aurobindo behera ( secy forest and env dept). on 4th thursday, some fellow named as prusti called from secretariat to our office & invited me to attend the meeting. He told me that due to shortage of time, they could not send the invitation letter. On 6th the meeting was held at conference hall of dept of forest & env at secretariat. i am thinking they have invited other civil society organization . But i found that baring 3 participants from civil society ( ashok nanda- Vikas, Bibhukalyan mohanty's representative & myself ), rest are people from govt establishments and most of them are convener of various sector of OCCAP . Apart from this 3 members from CITRAN ( who has prepaired the report) joined the table. Mr ashok singh of ctran made a presentation about the process and its present state and Mr Bhagirathi Behera ( director- env dept) told that now it requires to be passed . At same time , Mr sidhanta das ( memb-secy OSPCB), Ajit pattnayak( CDA) were em phasing on its time bound enactment and it seems that they were trying to influence the secy to give green signal to the report at an earliest . when the secy wants to know if the view of NGO, CBO were taken, Mr Bhagirath behera told that already we have incorporated their views what is possible and it will only take few days to complete the revised report . it seems that secy himself was himself reluctant to give nod it in a hurry. He was emphasizing to involve the NGO, CBO in this process but the officers were telling that they have already done that and its only needs his clerance and they will send it to center after this and orissa will be the first state in india to made this .
During the meeting the secy raised some important questions like 1- why there is a provision of budget when already we have so much fund available from other programme, 2- can this report ensure the irradiation of climate change from orissa by spending 17,000 crore amount, involvement of people from civil society, research on agriculture, etc.
My apprehension is that these officers will try tooth and nail to pass it earlier so that they will get the amount to spent at their will . they will never take the views of NGO, CBO & our submission by focus orissa ( their body language in that meeting was reflecting it) . so it would be prudent at this hour to meet the secy and apprise him the concerns of us, and how this can be incorporated in the revised paper. This needs to be done urgently. I would request Achyut bhai to initiate this process of meeting a representatives of NGO to secy and if possible if we can made a presentation on the anomalies involved in this process.
waiting for the responses of other members
with warm regards
Himansu
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Himansu sekhar Patra
Programme officer
Environment governance & climate change action group
Vasundhara, Bhubaneswar, Orissa
www.vasundharaorissa.org
I will not say i failed 1000 times, i will say that i discovered 1000 ways that can cause failure.
--
Bimal Prasad Pandia
Regional Center for Development and Cooperation (RCDC)
Balangir, Orissa, INDIA
Webite: http://rcdcindia.org/
Cell: +91-94384 88563 / 99378 88466
Blog: http://bimalpandia.blogspot.com/
Farming the way...
--
Achyut Das
Director
Agragamee
Kashipur -765015
Rayagada Orissa
India
Phone: 06865 285149/0674 2551123
Fax: 0674 2551130
e-mail: achyutdas@agragamee.org/agragamee@satyam.net.in
Blog:http://friendsofkashipur.blogspot.com
website:www.agragamee.org
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Dear Sudarshan,
What you suggest is appropriate and befitting. We know the style of function of the government apparratus.
Best wishes.
S.N.Patro
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:07:50 , sudarshan chhotray <sudarshanchhotray@gmail.com> wrote
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What you suggest is appropriate and befitting. We know the style of function of the government apparratus.
Best wishes.
S.N.Patro
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:07:50 , sudarshan chhotray <sudarshanchhotray@gmail.com> wrote
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From: FOCUS ORISSA moderator <focusorissa@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:17 AM
Subject: Re: follow up meeting on OCCAP at Secretariat and my concern.
To: focusorissa@yahoogroups.
Dear All,
Thanks Himanshu for bringing the issue before us and rejoinders of Achyutbhai and Bimal.The design of the government is crystal clear-in one hand they want civil society response vis-a-vis people of the state as a whole and in other hand they want to downplay the RESPONSES, just to suit their whim.
They have called the meeting in a haste only to get the approval of Principal Secretary Forest & Environment and for a symbolic gesture as to say/show,Civil Society is involved.
Mr. Aurobind Behera was present when I submitted the Civil Society Response on OCCAP to the then Chief Secretary Mr.Tarunakanti Mishra on June 24th at 4.40pm.
I don't think the sinceer and committed efforts put up jointly by all those who were part of drafting the Civil Society Response will go waste and so also the joint initiative of FOCUS ORISSA FORUM ON CLIMATE CHANGE,ORISSA ENVIRONMENT SOCIETY and FOOD RIGHTS COLLECTIVE.Few of our friends were sharing earlier, in fact few departrments have accommodated some of our suggestions in the final plan.I don't know how far it is true.
At this point of time I think a delegation should meet and apprise the Principal Secretary and at the same time we should send a memorandum to the Chief Minister and Union Govt.after all the Central Govt is there to approve and grant the Planned Project.
What, I should suggest is to convene a meeting of the working group at the earliest to further the issue and follow up.
Hope, you all would like to appreciate my feelings.
Regards,
Sudarshan Chhotray
Convenor
Focus Orissa Forum on Climate Change.
http://www.sudarshanchhotray.
http://www.sudarshanchhotray.
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:11 PM, ACHYUT DAS <achyutdas@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks, Himansu and thanks Bimal.
We have to raise the issue with the Principal Secretary of Department of Forest and Environment Mr. Aurobindo Behera so that there is a proper consultation with the CSOs/NGOs after the Government finalises the draft. . There are very important inputs from the Civil Society and these should not be thrown to waste paper baskets. As we all know, there are many contentious issues which need lengthy debate. We should have a time line for these consultations.
I suggest let there be two kinds of consultations - one organised by the Government in which the CSOs/NGOs participate in large numbers and another organised by the CSOs in which the key Government officials participate. Each consultation has its own dynamics.
Let us have some discussion on these suggestions.
With best wishes,
Achyut
On 8 November 2010 11:54, bimal pandia <bimalpandia@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear elders and friends,
Pranam !
We must thank Himanshu for sharing this information and at the same time be concerned the way a section of the administration is pushing forward a dreadfully ill-planned climate change action plan.
Himanshu's first hand sharing of experience exposes the honesty of the administration to truthfully accommodate civil society and expert opinions. A hurriedly called meeting, an absence of any information on what addition/modification have been made to the draft document, and of course a highly skewed composition of the participants make that event a highly suspicious one.
The government should have tried a little more in getting a bigger representation from the civil societies and should have also invited those who did arrange public consultations and submitted reaction/suggestions to the draft document. The government could have at least invited those who did attend consultations leading to preparation of the first draft document.
Hopefully, we have probably not lost too much time or scope. The government can still amend the impropriety it committed by choosing to proceed in a subterfuge manner. We should thank the government that it has already taken some time, after seeking comments/suggestions from public. Now it should not do anything which makes the wait, and the process leading to that wait, a meaningless affair.
With regards
Bimal Prasad Pandia
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Himansu Patra <himansupat@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all
I think it would be wiser to let you brief about the proceedings of this meeting and the way some govt officers ( those who were the convener for OCCAP ) are trying to mislead sri aurobindo behera ( secy forest and env dept). on 4th thursday, some fellow named as prusti called from secretariat to our office & invited me to attend the meeting. He told me that due to shortage of time, they could not send the invitation letter. On 6th the meeting was held at conference hall of dept of forest & env at secretariat. i am thinking they have invited other civil society organization . But i found that baring 3 participants from civil society ( ashok nanda- Vikas, Bibhukalyan mohanty's representative & myself ), rest are people from govt establishments and most of them are convener of various sector of OCCAP . Apart from this 3 members from CITRAN ( who has prepaired the report) joined the table. Mr ashok singh of ctran made a presentation about the process and its present state and Mr Bhagirathi Behera ( director- env dept) told that now it requires to be passed . At same time , Mr sidhanta das ( memb-secy OSPCB), Ajit pattnayak( CDA) were em phasing on its time bound enactment and it seems that they were trying to influence the secy to give green signal to the report at an earliest . when the secy wants to know if the view of NGO, CBO were taken, Mr Bhagirath behera told that already we have incorporated their views what is possible and it will only take few days to complete the revised report . it seems that secy himself was himself reluctant to give nod it in a hurry. He was emphasizing to involve the NGO, CBO in this process but the officers were telling that they have already done that and its only needs his clerance and they will send it to center after this and orissa will be the first state in india to made this .
During the meeting the secy raised some important questions like 1- why there is a provision of budget when already we have so much fund available from other programme, 2- can this report ensure the irradiation of climate change from orissa by spending 17,000 crore amount, involvement of people from civil society, research on agriculture, etc.
My apprehension is that these officers will try tooth and nail to pass it earlier so that they will get the amount to spent at their will . they will never take the views of NGO, CBO & our submission by focus orissa ( their body language in that meeting was reflecting it) . so it would be prudent at this hour to meet the secy and apprise him the concerns of us, and how this can be incorporated in the revised paper. This needs to be done urgently. I would request Achyut bhai to initiate this process of meeting a representatives of NGO to secy and if possible if we can made a presentation on the anomalies involved in this process.
waiting for the responses of other members
with warm regards
Himansu
--
Himansu sekhar Patra
Programme officer
Environment governance & climate change action group
Vasundhara, Bhubaneswar, Orissa
www.vasundharaorissa.org
I will not say i failed 1000 times, i will say that i discovered 1000 ways that can cause failure.
--
Bimal Prasad Pandia
Regional Center for Development and Cooperation (RCDC)
Balangir, Orissa, INDIA
Webite: http://rcdcindia.org/
Cell: +91-94384 88563 / 99378 88466
Blog: http://bimalpandia.blogspot.com/
Farming the way...
--
Achyut Das
Director
Agragamee
Kashipur -765015
Rayagada Orissa
India
Phone: 06865 285149/0674 2551123
Fax: 0674 2551130
e-mail: achyutdas@agragamee.org/agragamee@satyam.net.in
Blog:http://friendsofkashipur.blogspot.com
website:www.agragamee.org
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Dear Sudarshan Babu and friends
I would like to recommend a few lines to all the esteemed readers. After working with Govt for a few years I gathered so much of experiences. Whatever we are suggesting here are captured by great and good minds of IAS officers. But I have seen their helplessness at a very close proximity. They are sanwitched between personal preferences generated due to the pressure from political stakeholders at top and babus at bottom. Although they wish to do something the so called 'chora, chugulia and chaplusia's sorrounding them create serious bottlenecks. The problem is the so called Babus are neither motivated, trained, and made exposed to the real life issues at grassroots level. They are only given with some work to perform without any time limit. The performance quality and time of completion are never monitored. Whenever there is attempt o monitor we find the regularity is broken very easily by many reasons. Climate change is a very complex matter to be observed and understood by these babus.
Alas ! if we could make attempts to sensitise them at all the levels and all the sectors and make them aware that today's problem what you find is leading towards rise of high cost towards general commodities, more diseases-particularly malaria and tuberculosis, rise of cost towards health services, looming hunger and related problems, low yield of agricrop, increasing environmental calamities, more brain disorders etc. and all those lead to social disturbances wherever and whichever communites you belong to.
Thanking you with regards
I would like to recommend a few lines to all the esteemed readers. After working with Govt for a few years I gathered so much of experiences. Whatever we are suggesting here are captured by great and good minds of IAS officers. But I have seen their helplessness at a very close proximity. They are sanwitched between personal preferences generated due to the pressure from political stakeholders at top and babus at bottom. Although they wish to do something the so called 'chora, chugulia and chaplusia's sorrounding them create serious bottlenecks. The problem is the so called Babus are neither motivated, trained, and made exposed to the real life issues at grassroots level. They are only given with some work to perform without any time limit. The performance quality and time of completion are never monitored. Whenever there is attempt o monitor we find the regularity is broken very easily by many reasons. Climate change is a very complex matter to be observed and understood by these babus.
Alas ! if we could make attempts to sensitise them at all the levels and all the sectors and make them aware that today's problem what you find is leading towards rise of high cost towards general commodities, more diseases-particularly malaria and tuberculosis, rise of cost towards health services, looming hunger and related problems, low yield of agricrop, increasing environmental calamities, more brain disorders etc. and all those lead to social disturbances wherever and whichever communites you belong to.
Thanking you with regards
Bibhu Prasad MohantyHIG-130, KV-5, Kalinga vihar,
Patrapada, Bhubaneswar,
Khurda, Orissa,India
Cell No-+919437031912
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